r/gadgets Nov 12 '22

Apple slashes trade-in values for its iPhones Phones

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u/Bdorf93 Nov 12 '22

Only further pushing people to sell privately. It already wasn’t worth trading in.

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u/Shronkydonk Nov 12 '22

I went through my carrier’s trade in loyalty thing, offered me so much more than apple did. I think apple offered me like $100 for my XS?

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u/egnards Nov 12 '22

Yea - Verizon offered me $800 for my iPhone 11, so I paid $100 for the iPhone 14.

I don’t normally like “debt,” in that they pay it off over 3 years, so technically I “owe” them $900,” right now, but I made an informed decision that I was unlikely to switch carriers. . .And if I do switch carriers, I’m just paying the balance off of what I would have had to pay anyway.

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u/tsloteconomist Nov 12 '22

What my carrier does with these phone deals is charge the maximum possible for the phone and then apply hefty discounts to your service bill. The result is that if you leave them, your balance remaining is about twice what it really should be.

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u/egnards Nov 12 '22

Verizon does the same. This is the first time I’ve ever traded in a phone, I always just buy it outright (usually 1-2 models behind), so doing it that way. . .I just end up either winning. . .or in the same boat I was in before.

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u/ZellNorth Nov 12 '22

I started doing this with the iPhone 11. Lowered my monthly bill by actually trading in my phone and get the latest phone every other cycle. Went from the 8 to the 11 to the 13 and haven’t actually paid anything for them.

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u/EpiBub Nov 12 '22

Teach me pls!! I have mine paid off- the 11 but wanting a 14

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u/ZellNorth Nov 12 '22

Depends on your carrier. I know AT&T and Verizon have these deals. As long as you have no damage on your phone, check their website and they usually have deals like 800-1000 dollars off. You’ll at most pay 150 bucks for the newest model and you can put a down payment on it so your phone bill doesn’t go up if you want. Also don’t get the carrier insurance. Get apple care if you want it but just get a case and screen guard and don’t be dumb with your phone and you should be fine.

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u/Axumite2031 Nov 12 '22

You pay for it in the cost of your service.

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u/ZellNorth Nov 12 '22

Maybe but I am gonna pay for the service either way. Only one provider really works where I live. So if I can get a new phone out of it for basically nothing, I don’t see the downside.

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u/pimpbot666 Nov 12 '22

Interesting. I have a 256mb iPhone 11. It works great, and in perfect shape. Almost three years on. I always told myself I wouldn’t upgrade unless I needed to, but the nearly free upgrade path is very tempting. On one hand I don’t want to add to the landfill, but these phones do get refurbished and resold. They’re not going to the landfill until they are obsolete. They’re also likely going to other countries in central and South America for resale.

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u/ZellNorth Nov 13 '22

Yeah I don’t know where the excess phones go. I try to be socially conscious but kinda realized unless I go 100% local there is gonna be some sort of injustice. I was of the opinion of use your phone until you can’t but if they are gonna basically give them away, I’m gonna take advantage

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u/kronosdev Nov 12 '22

I’ve been doing something similar, but I only upgrade on the iPhones that are exponentials of two. Can’t wait until the iPhone 16 comes out, and I hope I can use it until I die.

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u/ZellNorth Nov 12 '22

I wait till my phone is basically paid off. Usually a year and a half by that time it’s usually the odd number iPhone.

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u/YubNubberino Nov 12 '22

That’s how every carrier in the US works.

They aren’t going to cut you a check for $800 up front. That’s what’s in it for them

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u/krepkiyoreshek2 Nov 12 '22

The reason they can afford to do that is because their plans are insanely overpriced. Verizon isn’t a nice guy giving people free / cheap phones…

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u/Necrocornicus Nov 12 '22

What service do you use and do you get solid LTE in the middle of nowhere?

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u/FightingPolish Nov 12 '22

I’m not that guy but it’s Visible who is owned by Verizon and it’s only LTE, no 3g at all. It’s $30 a month for unlimited everything now, you cant get it for $25 anymore unless you’re grandfathered in.

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u/Stuffthatpig Nov 13 '22

I'm excited for that because they offer a 15day trial. As an expat who just needs service for two weeks at a time in the states once a year...this is prima.

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u/cool_chrissie Nov 12 '22

Not OP but I use H2O wireless (basically AT&T). I have 4g because I have a stupid iPhone 11. My husband gets 5g on his older Samsung. I pay $30/month. I think unlimited data is $45/month. I would never need that kind of plan though.

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u/Jewelbird10 Nov 13 '22

Some people just have to have the newest phone. A status symbol. Even though there isn’t that much of a difference in the phones.

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u/ElGrandeQues0 Nov 13 '22

Status is such a silly thing. If you really have status, you don't give a shit what anyone thinks of you.

Go ahead and laugh at my $350 OnePlus, meanwhile I'm about to max out my 401k..

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u/egnards Nov 12 '22

My Verizon bill is about $85, that’s including an upgrade in plan for hotspots ($10), which post COVID I 100% need for work - that also includes a free Disney+ Bundle ($15), and I think it’s Discovery+ ($50), that I was paying for before switching to Verizon anyway.

The sweet part though is that I was laying $70/month for internet from Optimum, and Verizon offered me a bundle on my internet that lowered my bill to $25/month with a 10 year price guarantee.

I’m not saying you’re wrong - but that in terms of price comparison in my area, it was 100% the smartest option for me

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u/Bakemono30 Nov 12 '22

Yes, they are overpriced. Just imagine buying corporate lines… we pay 1/2 the price of consumer lines with more features for roaming. Let that sink in…

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u/Redthemagnificent Nov 12 '22

I get a Verizon plan through my work. I get unlimited data, hotspots, international roaming, basically all the bells and whistles. It costs the company 27$ a month lol.

Not saying you made a bad choice. You got the best deal you could. But man, they rip off the average joe massively while offering super competitive pricing to big companies. It sucks.

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u/rakehellion Nov 12 '22

How do you owe them $900 if they gave you $800?

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u/egnards Nov 12 '22

It’s structured that I get $800 in a bill credit over 36 months. So if I leave, I have to pay whatever balance.

I assessed the situation as, “I’m unlikely to leave, and if I do, I’ll be far enough along that I don’t care.”

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u/Disastrous_Drive_764 Nov 12 '22

Same. It was just to keep me on Verizon. No prob. Had no plans to switch anyway. ATT’s coverage sucks in my area. No reception at all in my workplace. Can’t even send a text. So if Verizon wants to give me $800 for my old 11 & appleTV/music then awesome. Got a better deal on the 14promax than I did on the 11

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u/Shronkydonk Nov 12 '22

This is exactly what I did. I got $700 for my XS, so I paid the upgrade fee and I’m Paying like $3 a month more than I did before. I know it’s supposed to be Verizon who wins but like you I don’t plan on switching any time soon and by the time I do if it ever comes, I’ll pay the bit extra…

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u/02202992 Nov 12 '22

I had this same thing for sprint my iPhone 8 for 800$ which has a cracked back and buttons definitely were not working perfectly. Got the 13 for around 150.

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u/Lunaranalog Nov 13 '22

I did the same thing with the same phones. I had to double take and then hit up customer service because I couldn’t believe they’d offer me that much for my broken XR with no strings attached but the obvious one.

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u/eroyrotciv Nov 13 '22

What’s your Verizon Bill per month minus the phone cost? If day ~$80. Mine is $45 for now. They get that money back

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u/skilriki Nov 12 '22

Nobody is making money on your old phone, the carriers are benefitting here by locking you into a contract.

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u/trenticorn Nov 12 '22

As someone who literally builds cell sites in the PNW; you’re absolutely correct.

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u/Meem-Thief Nov 12 '22

I’m in the Atlantic northeast, and Verizon is the only one I’ve never had issues with

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u/3McChickens Nov 12 '22

We just dumped Verizon and went to Mint. Negligible change in coverage, noticeable change in bill. In my area, I can’t justify Verizon’s bill.

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u/horseband Nov 12 '22

100%. Had the XS Max, fucking cracked the back of the phone after years of it being in perfect condition (I was changing the screen protector, which required taking the phone out of the case/old protector, then I promptly dropped it).

In June I almost bought the 13 pro or whatever it’s called through Apple but decided to go through ATT instead because it was closer than the Apple Store. Apple was going to give me “free recycling” (aka they wouldn’t pay for my cracked phone).

Figured att would be the same. Nope, $720 trade in (caveat being you had to lock in for another 2 years of service contract).

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u/Shronkydonk Nov 12 '22

Sure, but $700 from Verizon is a lot better

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u/meruhd Nov 12 '22

Or trading to Samsung. Apple wouldn't accept a trade in at all of an old iPad I had when purchasing a new ipad, but Samsung did. I got a brand new tablet from them for less than $250 after trade in.

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u/Raisin_Bomber Nov 12 '22

ATT just had an offer where you traded in an Galaxy you would get a S22 free ($800 trade)

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u/meruhd Nov 12 '22

ATT screwed me out of my last trade in and gave me no credit for it. I spent a year calling those assholes.

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u/JettCurious Nov 13 '22

I originally was planning on sending my S10 in but found my old S5, threw it on the charger and it would hold a charge for about 4 hours then die.

They still accepted the trade and I got to keep my s10 which was in perfect condition and also got an $800 phone. All for the cost of $30 activation fee. Apple would never

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u/Awesharts Nov 12 '22

Wow you got the best prize

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u/Scyhaz Nov 13 '22

Samsung is offering me $1000 for my Note 20 Ultra if I trade it for a Z Fold 4. That's more than I originally paid for the phone because I got it with a great discount on prime day last year. I'm really tempted to buy it because with other discounts it's under $650 for a nearly $2000 retail phone.

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u/Narfi1 Nov 12 '22

It’s worth it if you are well off , don’t care too much about it and don’t want to go through the troubles of selling it privately. Basically they take the phone of your hands and you get a discount on your new phone

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u/owtlowd Nov 12 '22

I'm not well off, but I use sellyourmac or buybackworld to sell off old phones usually. It's less money but much easier to deal with. I don't have to worry about returns or someone claiming they never got the item. I send it in, and a few days later they paypal my money to me. Easy peasy.

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u/e_0 Nov 12 '22

They just offered $13 for my iPhone 8.

Hmmm…

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u/BURMoneyBUR Nov 12 '22

Little less hassle for the price of getting ripped off 😂

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u/e_0 Nov 12 '22

I know an 8 is old a decrepit but god DAMN, $13 is wild to me.

By that logic I literally could hand over my phone to a McDonald’s employee and MAYBE get a meal in exchange - that’s about it.

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u/MessyRoom Nov 12 '22

Old and decrypt? I got my 8+ in 2018 that’s just OMG ALMOST 5 YEARS AGO WHERE DID TIME GO

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u/Old_Travel8423 Nov 13 '22

I remember about 10 years ago they added the ability to add iPhones to my company’s cell plan. My boss at the time had just, and I mean like literally a week ago, gotten a new blackberry. We checked trade in prices and sale prices and they offered $1.

Hilarious to me, who had an iPhone.

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u/wrench_nz Nov 12 '22

How many fucking Apple products do you have to need a quickdial Mac specialty pawnshop

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u/restform Nov 12 '22

for real. This whole thread is kinda strange to me. IDK if all these trade in things are just less common in the EU or what.

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u/System0verlord Nov 12 '22

As a former IT guy, dozens. I’ve got a sizable stack of iPads next to my desk, and a box of MacBook pros, and a can of cider sitting on an old Apple TV as a coaster. Plus a handful of different iMacs, and a growing collection of cheese grater mac pros (I’m waiting until I have a matching pair to make a coffee table out of).

I don’t sell them, but I do have to bump up my insurance occasionally because of it.

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u/ITaggie Nov 12 '22

Honestly I've used sellyourmac at work to flip old Apple devices we were going to throw away. I even get 10-20% 'commission' on them, just don't tell my boss lol.

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u/newmoneyblownmoney Nov 12 '22

I’ve been buying iPhones since the 4 and have never come across a model worth trading in. Even after a year a $1000 phone is maybe $350 offer when you can sell it on eBay for at least $700.

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u/harry-package Nov 12 '22

I’ve been selling on Ebay for 20+ years and iPhones/tech are one of the few categories I wouldn’t attempt due to the ridiculous amount of scammers/fraud. Not saying it’s a guarantee, but it’s not for the faint of heart. Prepare for the possibility of being ripped off. And it’s pretty unlikely Ebay seller protection will provide much help.

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u/Mujutsu Nov 12 '22

I've never used ebay and I don't understand exactly what you mean by ripped off, how does it happen? Why even use ebay and not some other platform to sell it if ebay is so bad?

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u/lorenzoem87 Nov 12 '22

Swappa.com. Best place to resell. I used to use eBay but fees are crazy and scammers are more present. Swappa is a great site with support.

Always ship to address provided from PayPal and use signature for sales over $700. I’ve now sold almost 300 tech devices on swappa in last 5 years and not one issue.

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u/vagueblur901 Nov 12 '22

+1 for Swappa never had a issue

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u/NextWhiteDeath Nov 12 '22

You send the product and then they claim the product never arrived. Ebay takes back the money and you are out the product you sent.

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u/Mujutsu Nov 12 '22

I usually take a complete video and pictures of packing the product whenever I sell something remotely, would that help with this particular problem in case of ebay? Just curious.

Also, is there any way to contest the claim, or is it just like Youtube when they shut down your channel, you can never talk to a human?

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u/harry-package Nov 12 '22

Unfortunately, videos are a total waste of time. Ebay doesn’t care. I have never heard of any case being decided in a seller’s favor because of a video.

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u/fabuzo Nov 12 '22

eBay does not do this… as long as tracking shows delivery you would win such a claim. Bigger worry is defective/damaged item returns and not getting your item that you originally sent or getting it back broken. eBay has pretty good seller protection but as someone who has been in this industry for years, you will never please everyone.

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u/newmoneyblownmoney Nov 12 '22

Yea Ive heard about all the scams. I haven’t sold a phone on there since maybe the 6. My last 7 I kept until I got the 11, then I just got the 14.

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u/iphonehome9 Nov 12 '22

I'm not trying to deal with the hassle of selling a phone an possibly getting ripped off for maybe 50-100 extra

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u/imightgetdownvoted Nov 12 '22

If it was 50-100 I agree with you. For me in Canada it’s been half the price or less to trade it.

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u/the_cosworth Nov 12 '22

Not for me. My basic 12 trade in was 485 and I saw similarly listed on Kijiji for 600. So after negotiating I was $50-$75 difference

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u/phulton Nov 12 '22

Yeah it’s hit or miss. I traded in a 2018 MBP last year on a build to order MBA. They offered around 900 for it trade in value, which was maybe 1-150 less than eBay selling prices. But then I didn’t have to pay fees or deal with eBay.

I traded an iPhone 12 mini last year to Best Buy because they decided to offer 670 for it when it was only 700 new so that was a no brainer.

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u/OhPiggly Nov 12 '22

Not worth it? I traded in a 2 year old XR that I got for free for $750 towards a 13 pro max.

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u/thatguy425 Nov 12 '22

Oh it was. I took my cracked iPhone 4 in in April. Phone hasn’t been used in four years and they gave me $250 for it towards a new iPhone. No one was giving me $250 on the private market.

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u/yogurtmeh Nov 12 '22

Great news for me! My grandfathered-in plan doesn’t include upgrades, so I buy all my phones preowned/refurbished. Never had an issue yet.

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u/nsomnac Nov 12 '22

Depends.

Many of those grandfathered plans have the type of service attached. So sure you can have your contract - but you also have to likely maintain 3G or basic LTE service. So when you get to the point where the phone you want is 5G (or say the upcoming 6G), you’ll be locked into a lower speed or potentially want a device that doesn’t support an available network.

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u/babztheslag Nov 12 '22

And then they get mad when ppl sell their phones privately lol screw them

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u/Sa404 Nov 12 '22

This is why most people do it from a telecom, got $800 trade in value for a $300 IPhone XR just a year ago

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u/WellEndowedDragon Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 13 '22

Yup, the carrier trade-in deals are basically a re-branding of the contract deals from the early 2010s era. Remember deeply discounted $199 iPhones in exchange for committing to be on the carrier for 2 years?

Except it’s an even better deal for the carriers now, because before the early contract termination fee was like $300-400. Now if you cancel they can charge you the unpaid portion of the full balance on your $1000 phone, and they get a trade-in phone to sell.

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u/-Goo77Tube- Nov 12 '22

Yup. My wife and I were looking to trade in my mother-in-law's iPhone 11 for the 14 Plus, but Apple would only offer a couple hundred for it, which surprised us honestly. T-Mobile had a deal to trade in for $800. As much as dealing with T-Mobile can be a hassle, everything worked. We got a $185 trade in for the phone then a $615 discount broken down monthly over the course of two years. MIL is happy and so are we.

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u/justthisones Nov 12 '22

These would make much more sense if they happened almost monthly with small drops instead of slashing $100+ for some devices at once. Makes it look a lot shittier just before holidays. That macbook drop is crazy.

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u/e_di_pensier Nov 12 '22

Best I can do is $5.

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u/GhettoStatusSymbol Nov 12 '22

thats how much macs actually cost to manufacture

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u/Shruglife Nov 12 '22

I7 people dont want that anymore

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u/ChicagoAdmin Nov 12 '22

Someone probably wants it enough to spend more than $350 on eBay.

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u/jehehe999k Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22

What % of the original purchase price do you think it can fetch, considering you can get a brand new macbook air for under a grand that’s going to outperform it?

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u/Mike Nov 12 '22

Yeah. I sold my 2019 i7 with Vega 20 etc etc and replaced it with the gen 1 mac mini m1. Seems to perform better than the laptop did.

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u/SlenderLlama Nov 12 '22

And here I am $250 deep into a 12 year old MBP. Best spec for its time, force updated to osx 12.6.1 … I couldn’t pay someone to take it. i7 / 1tb SSD / 16 GB ram / new screen + keyboard. Still can’t move it online lmao

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u/ceetoph Nov 12 '22

Consider donating it to a local non-profit. They get a machine that's fine for email and web browsing, you get a tax write-off.

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u/anon_in_colorado Nov 12 '22

I just sold mine for $1700, so there’s clearly still demand

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u/Vilanil Nov 12 '22

You will always get way more value from selling stuff than trading it to Apple. Apple has always been a cheapskate with trade in values, whereas resale value of popular Apple products is quite good.

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u/Mike Nov 12 '22

That’s kinda the point. You don’t trade in a car expecting to get max value for example. Whoever gets the thing you’re trading in is going to want to sell it at market prices.

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u/vinng86 Nov 12 '22

Agreed. Even before this change the trade in values were hot garbage

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u/AlmennDulnefni Nov 12 '22

I think that's $350 more than any other laptop manufacturer has ever offered me for one of my old laptops.

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u/enemylemon Nov 12 '22

There is no drop in iPhone hardware value that is (currently) economically justified. If anything, the real value of the hardware is increasing and being artificially suppressed.

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u/Outrageous_Duty_8738 Nov 12 '22

Always best to sell your phone privately get more money

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u/Sierra419 Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22 Ally

I got ripped off $700 on eBay about 10 years ago selling an iPhone and I’ll never do it again. The lady claimed it never delivered and eBay gave her 100% of her money back no questions asked. I escalated the situation, provided tracking number, and even provided proof from AT&T that a customer living at the address I shipped to had activated the phones imei number. Nothing. They side with the buyer every time. Never used eBay again after that.

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u/Akiias Nov 12 '22

Did you then report it as stolen?

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u/Sierra419 Nov 12 '22

The police said I could file a report but nothing would be done

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u/Akiias Nov 12 '22

There's a high chance they actually can't do anything about it. BUT if I'm not mistaken with a police report on a stolen phone you can get some sort of internal ID effectively deactivated or blacklisted from most or all carriers effectively bricking the phone.

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u/Pegasusisme Nov 12 '22

Yeah I work at a phone retailer and if a customer calls and reports their phone as stolen to their carrier it’s supposed to be put on the Lost/Stolen list which is supposed to automatically make it impossible to activate on any US carrier. It’s not a perfect system but I have had to turn people away with phones they bought secondhand before because they were on that list.

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u/LigmaBahlls Nov 12 '22

Apparently people getting iPhones through network contracts, selling them new on eBay, waiting a couple weeks, then reporting it as stolen - irreversibly bricking the phone in the process - then claiming a replacement through their insurance is a popular scam.

I’d never heard of it until a business associate of my bosses told us how his boss bought him a new phone off eBay as a thank you for something and the guy’s phone was inexplicably bricked one day while he was out and about.

He had to go from pub to pub to get wifi signal to make phone calls or get a taxi. Pain in the ass and also a lesson on being very careful buying super popular items off places like eBay, gumtree, etc.

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u/SensibleCircle Nov 12 '22

Pro tip: now that most N.A. phones have two imeis, when a device is blacklisted its usually only imei 1. The device can still be used with the secondary imei. Which is the esim, or esim 2 on American iPhone 14s.

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u/LigmaBahlls Nov 12 '22

Not a pro tip in the U.K. but if I’m ever on the market for a phone across the pond I’ll keep this mind.

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u/ApolloAtlas Nov 12 '22

This happened to me. Bought a phone 2nd hand on FB marketplace. Went met them. Seemed nice. I tested the phone and checked to make sure it wasn't on the blacklist using Swappa imei checker. 2 weeks later it will no longer connect to cell service.

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u/Pegasusisme Nov 12 '22

At least for the carrier I work for if you try to activate a device that still has a loan balance on it on a different account it won't work (most of the time). Probably exactly for that reason. It's also why eSIM is such a big push, so you can't just sell a used phone and have them put their SIM card into it, they have to go through the process with their carrier.

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u/usertaken_BS Nov 12 '22

When I was younger I did a version of this, but not a scam and it paid my rent when I was broke af.

I had 3 older family members who never upgraded I used all the upgrades to purchase “free” phones. Activated off the box so that carrier saw they are on my account. I’d swap back to old phone and then sell them.

Would lock everyone into a 2 year extension (no big deal for them or me) and I’d sell for MSRP. Never had a complaint and it seemed like a win win.

That last step you mentioned is straight scummy. Fuck people who report shit they sold as stolen.

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u/Mdh74266 Nov 12 '22

I had the inverse of that happen to me as a buyer last spring.

Seller shipped a .5lb package to a random address in my town, instead of a 65lb kids ride on tractor. Took me 4 weeks to get my money back. Then they locked my account/email for “fraudulent activity” even though they made me file a fucking police report.

Do not use ebay unless its via a reputable business.

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u/Onikojima Nov 12 '22

Been an eBay user since 1999, still have a 100% track record as buyer and seller, but I have noticed unusual suspicious seller stuff as of late. Over on Amazon a non-fulfilled seller I bought a monitor mount arm from sent some kind of package to Nashville, Tenn. (and accepted by receiver) when I live in Canada and the seller refused to respond to my attempts to contact so Amazon reimbursed my money and that seller no longer exists. I also tend to avoid those "marketplace" sellers on Best Buy and Walmart.

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u/wrecklessgambino Nov 12 '22

Yup. Unless I'm desperate for something, I make sure whatever I'm buying is sold by Amazon.

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u/Yancy_Farnesworth Nov 12 '22

Just be aware of what "fulfilled by Amazon" (or whatever they call it now) and sold by Amazon means. Fulfilled by Amazon deals with this situation as Amazon is dealing with the warehousing and shipping, so you can't really get scammed by that. But you can still get bit by fake goods because of how Amazon handles inventorying. Last I heard, Amazon just lumps together goods from multiple sellers into bins and ships from the bin. Which means if a seller provides a fake, it's now lost in the pool and can go to anyone regardless of seller. They may have done something to resolve this by now, they tend to change things fast. At the same time, they might not have because they don't have much of an incentive.

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u/jsmith456 Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 15 '22

Yeah. To be clear commingling does not actually mean products from different sellers are thrown in the same bin. It just means that when I buy from company A, Amazon might just send one originally sent in by company B instead. This is especially common if the one from company B happens to be stored in a closer warehouse to the customer.

Amazon keeps products from different sellers seperate in the warehouse, and tracks which bin they fulfill each order from, so they can in theory tell which seller the product originally came from, and can ban them if it turns out they are sending in counterfeits, or packages filled with fishing weights, etc.

But this does not really help with functioning non-obvious counterfeits that may later burn your house down. By the time those get discovered the damage is already done. The only safe option for products where this is a risk (other than not buying via Amazon.com) is to buy from trustworthy sellers who have opted out of commingling (which sellers can do. Not sure if it is slightly more expensive, but it will likely mean slower shipping times on average since product is less likely to be in closest warehouse). Unfortunately, I’m not actually sure if it is possible for a consumer to even tell if a seller has opted out of commingling.

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u/kendrid Nov 12 '22

I had the same scam for a $100 item I purchased. The seller sent a letter to a random address in my town. eBay said “it was delivered” since all they see is the postal code on the tracking info. My local postmaster actually cared and provide me with a photo of the letter with the address it was sent to and they wrote a letter on my behalf to eBay. Only then did eBay refund me. I learned that their system photographs every item with tracking.

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u/brannak1 Nov 12 '22

I’ve had issues with buyers saying the same recently. I never got shafted. Proof of delivery was enough proof

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u/Bocephuss Nov 12 '22

eBay has so many fees anyway it hardly makes it worth it.

Craigslist, Facebook, meeting at a police station is the way to sell electronics.

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u/bradland Nov 12 '22

I’ve sold several iPhones on eBay, and in the last two sales I had issues. It’s to the point that I will not sell high demand items on eBay, period. Too many scammers taking advantage of eBay’s buyer-biased policies.

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u/doxx_in_the_box Nov 12 '22

Reddit AppleSwap and Hardware swap is much better. Easy to get an idea of who the person is. Can sell locally or use PayPal goods and services to pay a small fee in exchange of money back protection.

But no matter what there’s chance of being ripped off I suppose

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u/EmpheralCommission Nov 12 '22

I would have tried small claims court

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u/Sierra419 Nov 12 '22

That’s a great idea that I didn’t think of until many many years later

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u/subadanus Nov 12 '22

did you talk to someone on the phone? had this issue until i called and it was instantly reversed in my favor

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u/hlorghlorgh Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22

Just sell it on Swappa!!

I buy all my Apple stuff from there.

This comment is going to sound like shitty comment spam to people that don’t know, but Swappa is legit.

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u/shakestheclown Nov 12 '22

I sold a number of phones on swappa years ago and had zero problems

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u/tlxxxsracer Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22

I sold a phone once (had done so a few times before) on Swappa. Guy received it, 2 weeks later they opened a claim saying the buttons were defective and mushy. Somehow my eBay emails were going to spam and a big hurricane came through then PayPal closed the case in his favor. He got his money back then he sold the phone instead of returning the device to me. It was a bear to get my money back though

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u/GameOfScones_ Nov 12 '22

If there was a tracking number and you gave correct valuation to post office/courier then it was insured by them to a large fraction of the value.

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u/Sierra419 Nov 12 '22

The post office doesn’t pay out on packages that show delivered. At least they didn’t at the time

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u/ThatOldDustyTrail Nov 12 '22

I swore I’d never sell anything on eBay after getting ripped off multiple times. eBay will side with the buyer 100% no matter how much proof a seller provides

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u/5150_Ewok Nov 12 '22

Sell it privately in person. eBay is shit for selling.

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u/ibechbee Nov 12 '22

Except for the Pixel 6 --> 7 upgrade a couple months back. I made money! Got $510 final trade in value from best buy, a $100 best buy gift card, and 3 months of Fi for free ($150 value).

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u/Outrageous_Duty_8738 Nov 12 '22

Pleased to hear that 👍

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u/inikul Nov 12 '22

Yep. Just traded a 5 for a 7. Couldn't believe they said $400 for the 5.

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u/thomasutra Nov 12 '22

Not necessarily. I traded in my S10+ a couple months ago for $800, and one corner of the screen didn’t even work. Right now they’re going for less than $300 on eBay.

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u/Outrageous_Duty_8738 Nov 12 '22

Look I feel take it to Apple store and see what they offer you as a trade in? And if you don’t like the price then sell it privately. My experience and I can only speak for myself is I always got more money selling private.

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u/Waqqy Nov 12 '22

Apple yes, other phones not necessarily depending on condition. Samsung gave me £150 for my old phone that was smashed to bits

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u/Jay-Five Nov 12 '22

Apple never gave good trade in values. The deals were always better with providers. I got $300 (same amount they offered for a 6, actually) for my iPhone 8 with Verizon, Apple only offered like $70.

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u/Stringsandattractors Nov 12 '22

I’ve traded in some iPads for work and got Greta prices. A 4th gen iPad mini that was 3 years old for just about £100 less than purchase price I thought was pretty damn good

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u/wineheda Nov 12 '22

Apple tried to pay me $140 for my Xs a couple months ago but Verizon offered me $400. Apple’s trade in value has already not been worth it

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u/lepobz Nov 12 '22

Traded my iPhone X in a few weeks ago, just in time I guess.

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u/TappedIn2111 Nov 12 '22

Same here. 11 for 225€

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u/eraserewrite Nov 12 '22

Traded my XS Max yesterday for $80. : (

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u/everwander Nov 12 '22

For those curious, here's the comparison with an archived snapshot from waybackmachine and the current site

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u/jontheboss Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22 Helpful

This whole thread is extremely misleading and totally off-base. Am I the first to point this out? iPhone 12 Pro Max was $650 and now is $480… in that same screenshot, you see that the 11 Pro Max had a trade-in value of $420… What the comparison doesn’t show is the iPhone 13 Pro Max now at the top of the chart with the same $650 trade-in value that the 12 had… Somebody left that out on purpose. The iPhone 14 recently went on sale… So your phone that was only one version behind is now two versions behind and — surprise — it’s not worth as much as it gets older… When you look at it that way — and you line up the old 11’s to the new 12’s — you can see for most phones, you’re actually getting more trade in value than before for a phone two versions behind.

This whole thread reads like propaganda — ignoring a logical cycle of aging technology. I get that Apple is greedy, but you don’t have to make crap up to make that point.

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u/TheLieLlama Nov 12 '22

This is incorrect. I traded my iPhone 12 Pro last week, it was $430 and I just checked the same phone is $380 now. You're using an older old version here.

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u/m11531 Nov 12 '22

Call it an apple slice

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u/Ame_No_Uzume Nov 12 '22

Where they take more and give you less.

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u/Riversntallbuildings Nov 12 '22

Isn’t this normal when a new model (iPhone 14) comes out?

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u/Hiro-of-Shadows Nov 12 '22

Most likely to make the Black Friday deals look better, right?

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u/GameOfScones_ Nov 12 '22

Good thing I intend to just replace the battery on my se2020 until the end of time.

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u/unchainedthor Nov 12 '22

Facebook marketplace…if you dare deal with it…will net you way more cash for any electronics product.

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u/Luxuriosa_Vayne Nov 12 '22

to me that's the only good thing about Facebook, their marketplace its hard not to sell things on it

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u/unchainedthor Nov 12 '22

Yeah look at how much other people in your area are selling phones for, drop it 10 bucks and you’ll have it sold by end of day

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u/Sendbeer Nov 12 '22

It's the only reason I don't delete and uninstall my account.

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u/Gnatinthehat Nov 12 '22

Just replaced my wife’s 6S with an 11, she likes it. Still have an 8 myself.

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u/MrR0b0t90 Nov 12 '22

Not like they offer much anyway

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u/KingPaulius Nov 12 '22

I asked the trade in price for my phone; I said it was the highest memory model and the Apple store rep said “it doesn’t matter how much memory.” - it matters when they’re selling it though 🙄

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u/MrShaytoon Nov 12 '22

My friend got $800 for trading in their 11 for 14 via Verizon. I was blown away at that price. Guess they got lucky?

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u/yerzo Nov 12 '22

Ah, yes. The old Gamestop formula.

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u/Signal-Extreme2393 Nov 12 '22

Found this out yesterday. Fitty bucks back on my phone, only to go to paying for a phone that costs $1000

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u/Wild_Guess_7402 Nov 12 '22

Makes me just plan of keeping my iPhone 12 longer. Maybe by the IPhone 18 I’ll be down to upgrade.

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u/supervillainsforever Nov 12 '22

FWIW Apple’s trade in program is a contracted third party who refurbishes these devices and sells them to Asurion, who then sells them to carriers as warranty replacements (like when you lose your phone and Verizon sends you a “new” one). Nothing traded into Apple is ever resold by Apple to end users, nor do they determine the trade value.

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u/iQipy Nov 12 '22

feels like gamestop offering me a $20 gift card and a used condom for my xbox series x

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u/tamale4 Nov 12 '22

Traded my xs max this May for $700 off towards a 13 pro max. Don’t think I’ll see offers like that ever again

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u/Rigo3oh Nov 12 '22

Apple would want us to throw them in the trash every year and get a new one.

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u/Yogicabump Nov 13 '22

Apple's Trade-In prices were already bad before.

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u/Pascalica Nov 13 '22

Guess I'll just hang onto this one longer, then.

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u/Star_king12 Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22

So much for sustainability and caring for the environment heehee

EDIT: To those not understanding what I'm talking about They're reducing the incentive for you to give them your old device so they could dispose of it in a "green" way. More devices will end up in the trash and landfills.

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u/alc4pwned Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22

To those not understanding what I'm talking about They're reducing the incentive for you to give them your old device so they could dispose of it in a "green" way. More devices will end up in the trash and landfills.

They’re offering less so now people are just going to throw their devices away instead? That might make sense for very old devices where the trade in value wasn’t high to begin with but even then it’s a stretch. The 5 year old iPhone 8 still sells for between $100-200 on ebay, why would people throw those away..?

iPhones retain value way better than Android phones. By your logic, are iPhones better for the environment? People are less likely to throw something away the more valuable it is right.

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u/bichonfire Nov 12 '22

If I’m getting less value for my old phone, I’d be more incentivized to keep it longer lol

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime Nov 12 '22

what are you even talking about

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u/Gdigger13 Nov 12 '22

What? If apple is giving me ANY money to trade-in that’s what I’m gonna do.

“What? Apple is giving me $100 less to trade in than before? Oh well, into the garbage!”

I don’t understand the logic here.

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u/derek533 Nov 12 '22

Here's what you do. Find a 1 to 2 year old phone that does everything you want it to do. Start scouring the internet for new old stock and buy one for pennies on the dollar ($200-$300 NIB). Use it until it no longer takes a charge. Profit.

I made a decision long ago after being tied into Verizon with a Droid X that I'd never go on contract again. It's so nice having phones that I don't worry about too much, and don't treat like glass slippers. They serve me well and still take great photos. Every upgrade nowadays is just incremental anyway.

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u/ThePenIslands Nov 12 '22

I can't imagine how bad it must be now. A few years back I decided to get a different iPhone (I always just buy them with cash, unlocked). I took my 1.5 year old iPhone with me to trade in. It was in perfect shape. They offered me $65 for it. I laughed and said "nah." Bought myself a new phone and gave the old one to my sister instead, since her phone was a POS. Like, on what planet is a perfect 1.5 year old iPhone only worth $65? Fun fact: she still has that same phone. It just works.

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u/cameron0208 Nov 12 '22

Hmmm. I’m starting to think the devices were never actually worth what Apple charges for them 🤔

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u/Ec1ipse14 Nov 12 '22

I can wait another 5-7 models to upgrade yet again. This only makes it easier to not give them more money lol.

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u/nathanielx9 Nov 12 '22

Glad I got my 14 pro with my 12pro trade in. $800 trade in

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u/mdzkelduncol Nov 12 '22

My irritation with eBay now is that no one wants to actually bid, they only want to make offers. Makes it all so tedious to sell anything. Also people buy it and then back out. Happened to me twice on a computer recently.

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u/HashtagNani Nov 12 '22

I got $530 for a 2 year old 12 max pro. Was pretty happy with that. Thank god I just got the trade in done because I had to wait a month since someone stole my preorder of my 14 max pro off the truck and I had to wait a month for a new one. Just closed the trade in last week. Phew!!!

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u/Pastduedatelol Nov 12 '22

I traded in a 64 gb 12 last month and they gave me I think 400?

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '22

I’m just not going to buy new Apple devices. My phone is already kind of shorty now but I’ll just suck it up rather than buy a new phone I can’t afford anyways.

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u/davidbernhardt Nov 12 '22

So, older phones continue to go down in value once they have enough inventory? Got it.

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u/MrFiendish Nov 12 '22

Earlier this year I traded in my iPhone 8 for a 13 Pro. The battery was getting poor, and it was struggling to run certain apps, but for some reason they gave me a $1000 credit for it. Hopefully I can go another 4 years without upgrading.

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u/Codydownhill Nov 12 '22

I work for verizon and we are basically giving pixel 7s away for free with trade ins. So many older model iPhones still get $700 for either the 7 or 7 pro.

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u/DigitalSteven1 Nov 12 '22

"We know our fanboys will buy our next device every year even though they have a phone that will last them for at least another 5 years, probably 8-10, we just want more money"

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u/cardcomm Nov 12 '22

Honestly, it was already a huge rip off. I can't believe anyone traded in before

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u/neils_cum_rag Nov 12 '22

This sucks but every once in a while they have a great deal. Traded in my 7+ for $800 towards a 13 Max Pro. It was 6+ years old and definitely not worth that. They seem to do it once or twice a year 👀.

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u/SterlingsRed Nov 12 '22

i hope this doesn’t disrupt the market for marketplace/offerup. you can get some really good deals if you know how to look

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u/ThePremiumOrange Nov 12 '22

Sell your phone privately. I always have and I get 20% more EASILY. 30-40% sometimes if you’re willing to sell it a bit more slowly (helps if you’ve got something that’s objectively in good condition and you know it)

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u/ricardobmf23 Nov 13 '22

I wonder if Apple also slashed the resell price for consumers by the same amount?

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u/SirLocke13 Nov 13 '22

I had a Galaxy S8+ that I traded in for a Galaxy S21 Ultra.

I got $800 fucking dollars for the trade in. For a 5 year old phone.

Fuck Apple.

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u/Naisu_boato Nov 13 '22

Still a-ok with my gen 1 se here. So this affects me none.

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u/korbendallllas Nov 13 '22 edited Nov 13 '22

That’s comical because 3 months ago I bought an iPhone 13 Pro. I had an old iPhone 7 in the drawer and I figured hey let’s see if they’ll give me anything for that. Apple offered me $35. AT&T gave me $350. And they’re going to slash that offer?